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	<title>Comments on: SK2 is no more</title>
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		<title>By: Spontaneous Monotony</title>
		<link>http://www.davidarussell.co.uk/2006/01/27/sk2-is-no-more/#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>Spontaneous Monotony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;CORRECTION: Spam Karma 2 is no more...&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I have discovered a mistake in the post &#8216;Spam Karma 2 is no more&#8216; - my intrepretation of the &#8216;viral clause&#8217; in the GPL (which requires that all derivative works be licensed under the GPL) was incorrect - I thought it meant that ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>CORRECTION: Spam Karma 2 is no more&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I have discovered a mistake in the post &#8216;Spam Karma 2 is no more&#8216; - my intrepretation of the &#8216;viral clause&#8217; in the GPL (which requires that all derivative works be licensed under the GPL) was incorrect - I thought it meant that &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.davidarussell.co.uk/2006/01/27/sk2-is-no-more/#comment-253</link>
		<dc:creator>David Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I re-read the GPL and I've discovered that, as you said, I made a mistake - it DOESN'T actually forbid using non-GPL libraries/plugins etc. in GPL software, the 'viral clause' actually only applies when you are distributing a modified version of the GPL software, which by using SK2 I'm clearly not. In fact, I'll put a correction on the article itself and write a new correction article - this could have caused confusion to other people reading the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I re-read the GPL and I&#8217;ve discovered that, as you said, I made a mistake - it DOESN&#8217;T actually forbid using non-GPL libraries/plugins etc. in GPL software, the &#8216;viral clause&#8217; actually only applies when you are distributing a modified version of the GPL software, which by using SK2 I&#8217;m clearly not. In fact, I&#8217;ll put a correction on the article itself and write a new correction article - this could have caused confusion to other people reading the article.</p>
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		<title>By: dr Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.davidarussell.co.uk/2006/01/27/sk2-is-no-more/#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator>dr Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 11:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You probably should have contacted me with your issues regarding this licensing scheme.&lt;br /&gt;
As for the reasons why I chose not to license SK2 under the GPL, they are listed on SK2's page (along with a clear statement regarding licensing). To be honest, I could probably find another OSS license that satisfies me, I just do not think it is worth my time (and to some extent: my legal competence) at the moment, and given the relatively small size of SK2, I prefer to deal with any licensing or user request on a case-by-case basis (I have so far answered favourably to &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; such requests).&lt;br /&gt;
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Now, as for the implied notion that I would be violating WP's own GPL license. This is 100% inaccurate and indicates only a very loose understanding of both copyright laws and GPL terms.&lt;br /&gt;
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SK2 is a &lt;em&gt;plugin&lt;/em&gt; for WP, that does not incorporate or even bind in any way any amount of WP code. As such, it certainly does &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; fall under the WP license. As far as I know, Matt (WP's lead developer) is wholly aware of SK2's licensing status and has never expressed any reservation during our many conversations.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now regarding your use of SK2: if you feel that you do not want to be running any non-GPL software on your server, this is a choice you are entirely entitled to, of course. But if it is your opinion that software should always be unequivocally free (as in OSS-free), I sure hope you are donating to Michael and other people whose OSS software you use.&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyway, good luck and good blogging!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You probably should have contacted me with your issues regarding this licensing scheme.<br />
As for the reasons why I chose not to license SK2 under the GPL, they are listed on SK2&#8217;s page (along with a clear statement regarding licensing). To be honest, I could probably find another OSS license that satisfies me, I just do not think it is worth my time (and to some extent: my legal competence) at the moment, and given the relatively small size of SK2, I prefer to deal with any licensing or user request on a case-by-case basis (I have so far answered favourably to <em>all</em> such requests).</p>
<p>Now, as for the implied notion that I would be violating WP&#8217;s own GPL license. This is 100% inaccurate and indicates only a very loose understanding of both copyright laws and GPL terms.</p>
<p>SK2 is a <em>plugin</em> for WP, that does not incorporate or even bind in any way any amount of WP code. As such, it certainly does <em>not</em> fall under the WP license. As far as I know, Matt (WP&#8217;s lead developer) is wholly aware of SK2&#8217;s licensing status and has never expressed any reservation during our many conversations.</p>
<p>Now regarding your use of SK2: if you feel that you do not want to be running any non-GPL software on your server, this is a choice you are entirely entitled to, of course. But if it is your opinion that software should always be unequivocally free (as in OSS-free), I sure hope you are donating to Michael and other people whose OSS software you use.</p>
<p>Anyway, good luck and good blogging!</p>
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		<title>By: David Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.davidarussell.co.uk/2006/01/27/sk2-is-no-more/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>David Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not actually interested in the Bad Behaviour Blackhole list, the main reason I use the plugin is to check against various RBL/DNSBL servers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not actually interested in the Bad Behaviour Blackhole list, the main reason I use the plugin is to check against various RBL/DNSBL servers.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hampton</title>
		<link>http://www.davidarussell.co.uk/2006/01/27/sk2-is-no-more/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 09:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You would have known, long before posting a comment, if Bad Behaviour had done anything bad...which really isn't the point. :)&lt;br /&gt;
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I still recommend using more than one anti-spam plugin (repeatedly, in fact). Though Bad Behaviour Blackhole is probably not the best choice; the list it uses hasn't been updated in months.&lt;br /&gt;
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Right now I use Bad Behaviour (of course!) and Akismet, a few small parts of which I wrote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would have known, long before posting a comment, if Bad Behaviour had done anything bad&#8230;which really isn&#8217;t the point. <img src='http://www.davidarussell.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I still recommend using more than one anti-spam plugin (repeatedly, in fact). Though Bad Behaviour Blackhole is probably not the best choice; the list it uses hasn&#8217;t been updated in months.</p>
<p>Right now I use Bad Behaviour (of course!) and Akismet, a few small parts of which I wrote.</p>
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		<title>By: David Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.davidarussell.co.uk/2006/01/27/sk2-is-no-more/#comment-249</link>
		<dc:creator>David Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a test comment - to see if:&lt;br /&gt;
a) Bad Behaviour has totally screwed up comment submission (hopefully not)&lt;br /&gt;
b) The AJAX commenting in K2 actually works (hopefully yes)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a test comment - to see if:<br />
a) Bad Behaviour has totally screwed up comment submission (hopefully not)<br />
b) The AJAX commenting in K2 actually works (hopefully yes)</p>
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